“There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement.” This statement was made by Lord Kelvin — a famous Scottish mathematician and physicist who contributed to many branches of physics — in 1900 and shattered only five years later when Einstein published his paper on special relativity. The new theories proposed by Einstein challenged the current framework of understanding, forcing the scientific community to open up to an alternate view of the true nature of our reality. This serves as a great example of how things that are taken to be truth can suddenly change to fiction.
“Lord Kelvin’s statements bare with it the voice of paradigms past … We knew that the Earth was flat, we knew that we were the center of the universe, and we knew that a man-made heavier than air piece of machinery could not take flight. Through all stages of human history, intellectual authorities have pronounced their supremacy by ridiculing or suppressing elements of reality that simply didn’t fit within the framework of accepted knowledge. Are we really any different today? Have we really changed our acceptance towards things that won’t fit the frame? Maybe there are concepts of our reality we have yet to understand, and if we open our eyes maybe we will see that something significant has been overlooked.”
– Terje Toftenes
At the Hessdalen Interactive Observatory in Norway, scientists from the University of Ostfold, Hessdalen, have captured and documented many strange anomalies that seem to plague the area. It’s the only official 24 hour UFO observatory in the world, and its radar and cameras have tracked and filmed numerous unexplainable phenomena, the fastest one recorded moving at 30,000 km per hour, faster than any known aircraft today.
The example you see in the video below is known as the “Hessdalen phenomenon.” In September of 2007, university scientists and students carried out a major survey with a number of observation instruments. On the fourth night, the phenomenon decided to show up for them, up close.
The first UFO you see is not the one that appeared for the scientists and students working in the field. That one arrives shortly after. The footage below is from a documentary called The Day Before Disclosure by Norwegian filmmaker Terje Toftenes. Click here to watch the full documentary and learn more about it.
For more CE articles related to the UFO phenomenon, click here
To view more pictures and film from the observatory, visit www.hessdalen.org.
START VIDEO AT 48:36 AND END AT 51:37 TO VIEW THE PHENOMENON.
UFO, aliens exist, so what’s the big deal? Humans will not be allowed to receive high level technology from the aliens, because humans are so dumb and unreliable that they chase UFOs and fight each other with weapons instead of creating their common future.
agree 😀
well said
Shri the technology already exists only it is being kept from us by various gov and nongov orgs in the world. You’d be surprised at what they can do. And you are wrong, some of “them” have traded with some of the even most corrupt of our organizations. So what does that tell you about some of “them?
It’s time to not think with stereotypes. We have to come to grips with the realization that not only are we not the only intelligent species, but there are no good or bad beings, simply different agendas, personalities and differences in development.
The aliens trading with our governments which the PEOPLE put into power could never make them evil. One, if there is another life form out there, it’s smarter than us. I have such confidence in that after seeing that the human race would rather strive and achieve individually material gains compared to any other collective goals for the future; (Space Exploration, Medicines, Environmental, Hell, maybe we could even explore our own oceans? Considering we’ve only seen 3% of what’s under there, ‘supposedly’.)
Any ways my point, why would E.T.’s be corrupt for giving people super advanced tech when we chose them to lead for us , hm? Maybe the E.T.’s said: “Oh no, there would never EVER be a race so stupid that they just hand over all the power to the wrong people, let’s trust them.” Oh, I’m sure the the tech would be much better put to use by let’s say for example — AJ?
Not only would NOBODY have the education to understand and run tests on such an object you wouldn’t have the money either. Guess who does, our leaders that you have all selected, (if you say you didn’t vote for the current winner; you didn’t try hard enough to get you choice elected, because you kept your voice down.
TL:DR ? I guess if they’re corrupt for trying to help an already corrupt thing than fine, but realize that’s your individual arrogance.
Why do you think the people really have any power over the leaders of nations? Observe that huge powerful liars are the backbone of politics and must make the people think they are in charge. There must be creative AND destructive intelligent life out there if they can also get into groups to make decisions based on survival and gain like we do.
We cannot say opinion. We can only go off the facts n facts r clear. Our leaders just need to go n we need disclosure so we know the truth!
All of you guys are a bunch of retards. It’s funny that for all the “proof” of “something,” no one can be bothered to invest in a freaking tripod or show video that doesn’t look like it was taken by someone with cerebral palsy. What a crock.
Try catching an unannounced event that’s moving at mach 10 shrouded by ionized gas very high up in the air and see what the camera captures.
You are wrong. People have this alien, and they are wrong people, they are keeping it from us, because they want power and control over us. And keep us paying for power
A phenomenon which is indeed only something that is out of the ordinary, is only out of the ordinary because mainstream has not been told or taught about celestial technology and the nations of celestials all around … but as I often repeat ;..
Maybe sooner or later minds will have to consider a celestial side to these sort of mysteries … I would say that these disappearing crafts are vanishing through sky-rifts into inner dimensional realities referred to as heaven … this is a plausible answer because there are not only 3, high frequency rifts separating 3 surface alternate realities from the ground zero point of earth’s mantle core .. BUT also 4 high frequency rifts separating 4 overhead inner dimensional levels of open skies … all tuck away in earth’s upper 4 levels of the ionosphere …
Scripture call such inner dimensional rift stream “rivers” .. and calls the 4 inner dimensional skyline realities “firmaments” … and each 4 horizons (where skyline meets the rift stream) are referred to as a heaven … so some heaven are just overhead…
Nevertheless rift streams are high frequency energy streams flowing in a state of quantum acceleration filled with quantum charged ions having variable frequency levels within the rift streams which change proportionally in a descending or ascending skyline scale …
Now the only question would be then would be … into which inner dimension did they go … and by who‘s assistance were they taken …
Nevertheless … it has not been that scripture don’t speak of these celestial matters … it’s just that the perception being taught to mainstream has been incomplete ..
2 Corinthians 12:2 ;(whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the “third heaven.”
The Hessdalen project is deeply interesting, and very outside maisntream. There is a phenomenon called the “Hessdalen Triangle” which is a perfectly triangular shape made by taking 0,5 meters of the topsoil. The block of soil removed must have weighted several tons, and is nowhere to be found. Eerily enough, in Chile, in a place called “Buena Esperanza”, exactly the same phenomenon was observed.
I live in Østfold, and last night I saw a strange light in the sky. I am incredibly relieved and happy! because now you confirmed what I thought it was 🙂
The phenomena comes more across as an unidentified light phenomena, and not a “physical” UFO. One intriguing explanation is that the lights, formed as a horizontal stripe, could in fact be an electromagnetic membrane functioning like an opening between the dimensions (where it is theorized that many UFOs come from). The movie is excellent and highly recommended, Terje Toftenes is one of the best producers in the field!
But didn’t the scientists say that that it was condensed matter.
Greetings Earthlings, I come in peace.
Your guys’ comments have me quite interested. I’m somewhat new to this idea so are there any places that you can point me to so that I can learn more? Thanks.
Every time someone asks where to start, documentaries like this one I believe are a great place. Timothy Good, Richard Dolan….some great researchers there who’ve written a number of great books on the subject 🙂
http://www.rael.org
I call super saiyan
I really REALLY want to believe that extra-terrestrials are among us, but, this stuff can easily be photoshopped. Why is the camera always shaky or black and white and old?
Hell, that camera was even DUCT TAPED to the pole with what looked like a whole roll…you’d think they’d have some kind of HD apparatus by now not a camera that looks like it was last used in a newscast from the 60’s.
Here and sorry for the big read. U can just copy it and read later if you want. >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukEFQ05Zwko < These are live tv catches from different places rolled to a single point. When searching for the truth? Remember it doesn't contradict.. Go through and research each one of these ufo events that were captured on live tv. They can't photo shop live :).
Using those images as reference? Relook at the Nasa sts ufo's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzlt60zNsfE < Spheres of light anyone? Watch how they move on nasa images now that you have a matching pattern to move on. Notice how in the sts videos that at the time of these recordings? Were claimed to be "Ice particles" from the shuttles. People believed it lol.. Watch how camera's follow some of them.. HAHA! Follow ice particles with a camera on a 100+ million dollar mission? Seriously?
Using Those above as reference? Here is a collection of a good chunk of ufo sights on mass media from mainly just america. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMLoi06X9RQ < You can find videos of the same things world wide. This is where you will notice that there is so much data backing these. Google how many nations have disclosed.
Here is the hard core data for compare. These links below will lead you to the National security documents on these events. Please take in mind to visualize these sightings by military officials and air force pilots. Please also take into mind that some of these documents describe military engagement with vessels far beyond our ability to effect. But also the inhuman following.
They kept record so people can't ask why they didn't disclose 🙂
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/gov_super_secret_agency.pdf
Why its silly to say the govt is covering up the
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/ufo_ic_blind_spot.pdf
The Fun stuff
Ufo reported from us airforce. Pilot engaged a BRIGHT object in the sky QUOTING "2/3 – half the size of the MOON" F4-Phantom Weapons entirely ineffective. < WHAAT?! That was ages ago! We were not conquered? < The inhuman following.
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/now_you_see.pdf
16 nations inc usa. Investigate a ufo TOGETHER in Iran.. Military descriptions = Ufo played with the fighter pilots as if they were CHILDREN. ^ At the same times it was happening in their nations. When you notice their power by descriptions from military files world wide? Message from these beings = "Look at us! See? We strong but we not hurt you!"
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/us_gov_iran_case.pdf
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Follow all historic recordings of Ufo incidents and take everything that matches with the only hard data we have. You will see that many of these incidents can be explained.
But some of them are the reasons why military facilities have training manuals that teach how to communicate with extremely intelligent beings.http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_spectrum/communications_with_extraterrestrial.pdf
Also the reason for those silly military plans to engage alien encounters that were displayed on the history channel. Here is info on it plus a think tank on why its also a good thing. As Reagan said. The insertion of aliens would remind us of what we our on this earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH44mfyFt3M
Also the reasons for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W-B_qJnYWE < A Firefighters manual with a chapter on alien interactions.
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Dan Aykroyd on Aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVCd50LXPGY
USA Army: God damnit in a handbasket, can’t anyone dang-darn alien proof these tax payer dollar missiles?
Aliens: Haha, they’re still making missiles out of tax payer dollars. They’re about as entitled to these missiles as we are. -zaps- And now they’re worthless.
Uris are real I’ve seen like 4 different kinds in San Bernardino ca at different weekly intervals and always at night
again, no references, just claims from WHOEVER! come on guys, lets get rid of the crap!!!
This has become a bit of a plague we have been noticing, people comment but they never take the time to look at the obvious. Did you read the article and check into this? Did you look at the video clip? If so, all of the information you just asked for would be there. They are not claims and it’s not crap, it’s real and some of the most respected evidence out there.
I agree Joe. People have become so lazy. All the info is there. Want more google or youtube Hessledan Interactive Observatory. The article gives you everything you need to peak your interest, you do the follow up.
Lemme guess, you think cancer is a conspiracy?
Here is the very evidence you need.carved in stone 3800 bc.They came here and gave us all that we have,The first use of money time,religion,law,politics,farming,plumbing,how to construct city grids,medical tech,and the list goes on and on.They were called The Anunnaki.And their marks are on the pyramids,all over the world.They have left us with tech that we cant understand or use just yet,and it is all there for the informed to study,They out live us by thousands of years,they mastered dna long ago and space travel is no big deal,All solid proof If your mind can get passed cognitive dissonance.PEACE from those called ANUNNAKI.
Joe, just delete the trolls. They saw one episode of a Skeptic TV show and now they think they know everything there is to know about the universe and nothing is possibly true for them until Penn & Teller give them permission to believe.
I see this where I live we video taped it back in 2000 before youtube now we have youtube and I see this happening all over the world and its still unknown what it is???
FALCOR!!!!!1
Well people all seem to have differing opinions on ufo,s but i did see one as a kid of about 7 years old ,it was spherical ,silver and in broard daylight ,i was in a field with my sister ,it was hovering for a while there was not any noise ,then it started to slowly cruise along for a while and then accelerated off at an incredible speed ,
as a kid i knew it was not from this planet i had an interest in model aircraft and engines i new that there nothing on this planet that could do what it did ,i never told anyone for years a lot of years .
Do they come down ,i dont know but i do know they exist and that their technology is far beyond what is here on this planet !
Mergon, myself and a friend saw exactly what you described back in 1984 in Suffolk, UK. Same situation, over a field. Hovering, a subdivision of lights descended just below it and after a minute or less they converged back as one unit. The object cruised silently – approximately one agricultural field length – and then accelerated extremely fast in the direction of the North Sea, without a single sound or any hint of Sonic Boom. We were gobsmacked. It was also reported to the local paper by a motorcyclist who viewed it independently from us.
I find it disheartening to read so many comments like these. None of you are following any type of scientific process to get to your conclusions. Do you really think that there are scientists and government officials observing or communicating with aliens and somehow keeping it a secret? That would be impossible!
Take astronomy magazine for example. Hundreds of thousands of amateur astronomers subscribe. They look up into the sky more than anyone else on the planet. Why aren’t they reporting ufo’s? Because there aren’t any.
Where is your physical evidence? Peer review? You have to be a scientist (like a degree somewhere) before you can be reviewed by your peers. You do the human race a great disservice by believing in these goofy stories.
If you are not reading everything you can find about ufo’s both pro and con then you are not doing enough to study the subject. Explore from all angles. Take some science classes.
Many high level government officials and scientists have come forward within the past few years and have “blown the whistle” so to speak Phil. So indeed, there are scientists and government officials observing this phenomenon on a daily basis. These projects and products of the black budget, special access programs…that’s why they aren’t reported ‘officially,’. At the same time, dozens of governments have released official UFO files that show how the phenomenon is indeed real and has been subjected to rigorous investigation by governments all around the world. Before you condemn something, it’s a good idea to investigate it first.
You make my point Arjun. Not reported “officially”? There is no evidence. There is no one keeping secrets from you. The “scientists” you refer to are frauds and you have been lied to. Think of the hundreds of people that would have to be involved in this type of conspiracy. You don’t think the real truth with “hands on” evidence wouldn’t get out? Two people couldn’t couldn’t keep that kind of secret for long, let alone hundreds.
UFO doesn’t translate to alien or ET or anything. When a government or “scientist” or you or me says UFO it means UNIDENTIFIED. Simple as that. What makes it real is proof. Actual physical proof. Reviewed by many many qualified people. And someone writing a book they hope to profit from is not qualified to be a reviewer.
Blurry videos, scratchy audio, zero physical evidence is all there is to investigate. There is no other option but to condemn it.
Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. How scientific is it to claim that something would have been discovered by now if it existed?
You are skimming over the data received through media, schooling and society. You must be thinking everything is as it seems to the generally educated person. You underestimate the nearly infinitely selfish natural behavior of human groups. A group can have power to do anything in time as there is no individual responsibility. So many things are being held back by families and tribes and councils and nations and corporations in this world. You would say, Naaa..” to most of them. That’s easy. You say,”Someone would talk.” And some do and they or their words are torn apart. IT IS AMAZING HOW THREATS AND ALL POWER CAN WORK ON YOU. Observe the small hidden testimonies of those that either aren’t afraid to leak a tiny thing as it will do little harm to the mis-infomation system, or they are about to die with no heirs. A honest person’s testimony sometimes is the only evidence you need unless you have that obsession: the “I must absolutely prove everything 99% true and my faith doesn’t exist. “Can’t get far without faith as you unbiasedly search for true facts assembled together. IT IS INCONVENIENT BUT CHANGES YOU. LISTEN AND LOOK don’t slide over the top of the ice. Take a chance and get into that cold and maybe painful complexity of life’s intellectual challenges in general. You will find all kinds of misinformation hysteria and hoaxes on every side of the story, but don’t let them influence your goal, cut through them and record them. Make no decisions for a long time. It feels good to be able to say… “I don’t yet know.” That is wisdom and most of reality.
To be fair, no one in the clip nor did the author of the article ever say anything about aliens. I think it’s quite reasonable to believe there have indeed been unidentified objects seen in the sky that have provoked curiosity and intrigue. I think it’s also quite reasonable, given the sheer size of the universe alone, to ponder the POSSIBILITY that there may be life outside of our infinitesimally small speck of a planet in relativity to the size of the Universe as a whole. Simply what I’m saying is, are aliens visiting our planet? I doubt it. But is it possible? But how can you be so completely certain? And certainly you can at least acknowledge the existence of UFOs, in that there have indeed likely been things seen in the sky that the viewer didn’t identify exactly what it was.
The fact that you think ‘no one is keeping secrets from you’ shows how naive you truly are. This whole NSA thing has blown up in the past year or so and you think no one is keeping secrets? Daft, you are, my friend. You say
‘Do you really think that there are scientists and government officials observing or communicating with aliens and somehow keeping it a secret? That would be impossible!’
Biased opinion. Why would this be impossible? Do you know all the secrets of the universe and communication? What makes secret communication impossible? The government is pretty good at keeping secrets and if this were true, only a select few would have access to any of the information regarding ETs. All things come out in the wash, they can’t keep it a secret forever.
‘Where is your physical evidence? Peer review? You have to be a scientist (like a degree somewhere) before you can be reviewed by your peers. You do the human race a great disservice by believing in these goofy stories.’
So if a published scientist says it, it’s true? Peer reviewed articles and ‘proven science’ is disproved ALL THE TIME!
I’m not saying this video shows ETs, I’m not saying it doesn’t. There’s no proof either way. All there is is some strange lights in the sky that we aren’t sure what they are. However, it is ignorant to write something off and bash it mainly because you disagree with it. There is no scientific evidence to support the claim of ETs, and there is no scientific evidence to show that it was just a plane or some other human-made object. You are less scientifically minded than you think. If you observe something weird, hypothesize, test, test again. You don’t simply write it off because you disagree with the idea. That’s religion, not science.
You can’t see the air you breathe but yet you’re breathing it aren’t you? So where is your proof Phil Dury that air exists?
Simple.. “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”.
But doesnt it seem too good to believe? Government who is only seeking power and money, is now freely giving away information about something they wanted to keep a secret.
So I assume its all a lie, just to hide about the experiments going on on earth, I think its all based here,
no aliens, but just government tests hidden under a name of an UFO.
Since we dont know anything exactly whats going on, its alot easier to feed us fixed information.
Our mind always finds a way to understand truth, and for that is fixed information, they feed us the exact
amount needed so our brain processes the rest itself, so then we are more likely to believe it.
where you been phil? under a rock for a few years? guess u haven’t heard of Paul Hellyer, fromer canadian minister of defence, said, “UFOs are as real as the planes that fly over our heads. Or Alex Collier could fill you in on who you really are … u better Wake up Phil for its too late .. don’t be so dury ;
Once again the use of “UFO”. The first letter there stands for unidentified. Earth resides in a backwater solar system in an average universe in a gigantic galaxy. Did I say gigantic? Yes, I said it! Gigantic! We’re not that important.
I’ll start listening when Tyson or some other knowledgeable astronomer starts reporting it, thank you very much. Politicians don’t resonate with me.
I , by the way, don’t discount life on other planets, but I laugh at all the conspiracy theories and sightings without proof. We humans can’t get away from thinking we are the center of EVERYTHING and it all revolves around US, and hundreds of “other” people, most often referred to as “they”…”They are keeping the truth from us”
You say the Galaxy/Solar system/universe/space is so big, which it is, and that out of everything we aren’t “that” important. It almost sounds as if you can’t think of anything else to say, so your simple sheeple mind had to think of something because you just can’t ever be wrong. Well guess what phil, you’re wrong. please go to a different site and leave people who know the truth and are looking for more truths alone.
I’m continually amazed that some humans blindly accept what they read on the internet or hear on the radio without any scientific evidence. Systematic step by step scientific evidence. Plus the assumption that governments are able to keep these “aliens” secret from the rest of us. I unsubscribed from creative evolution because of this article. My point of view and frustration is clearly laid out in this article. ciao…
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theoies/
The fact that you are saying you will not listen at all unless a certain person, or certain people have come forward just comes to show how much you yourself have been influenced by those who have power and dominance in some form. Science is about looking into things with an open mind and taking in ideas from different sources and view points, evaluating them, improving on, and accepting different theories. Science requires an open mind and with that an ability to take things with a pinch of salt and not completely shutting it off. If scientists did that we would still think the earth was flat and that we were at the centre of our solar system.
The fact that you are saying there is “no scientific evidence” is also quite mistaken. It seems to imply that there was no scientific analysis of it whatsoever and all evidence is just based off sketchy footage shot by armatures. These people who capture the footage and analyse the data do use scientific methods to analyse the data they have collected and clearly know what they are doing with this information, they do not jump to conclusions and scream out ALIENS but like you said do say UFOs, just because they are not ‘top, well known, respected professionals’ does not mean we should completely rule them out – but like I said before always take things with a pinch of salt until there is solid unflawed evidence to prove it.
As for the government and higher authority bribing and threatening scientists to stay quiet, that is an entirely possible concept that should also be considered. Since when have the government been truthful about everything they have said? Not all the time. They are very powerful and can very effectively find information and manipulate people to support them, they’re good at it. After all would you dare speak a word of something if you knew your family and those close to you would end up paying the price? Or if the money that funded all your research suddenly stopped coming?
There is also a possibility the scientists may have the information or proof but choose to keep it to themselves for various reasons.
Of course these are just theories, there’s no solid proof I’ve seen so far that states what I’ve just said is right, but I’m still willing to look at evidence coming in from both sides.
Science is about having an open mind and a willingness to accept that things may not be as they seem. Automatically sticking to one side and gathering up whatever supporting evidence there is does not automatically make your side more superior than everything else – you can have all the evidence in the world but in the end if you can’t link it together and learn from others, it will be meaningless and will not give you your answer.
Keep an open mind, but take everything with a pinch of salt, respect what others have to say even if you don’t find it to your taste, link the resources you have around you and use everything you have whether it be supporting or refuting, you may learn something from it.
I agree with everything you say Phil, I used to be a huge believer, and I’ve read and watched a ton of disclosure videos over the years but there always seams to be a lack of evidence or something that always seams to link UFO’ with Aliens, its almost become a religion this whole Alien conspiracy, Its like everyone believing in Dinosaurs only there was no evidence to prove they exist because there isn’t any, thankfully though their is. The more I talk about these UFO matters It becomes a waste of time. I can see myself living for the rest of my days and never getting any evidence because it will just be simply to cliche, yet I believe there is life thriving elsewhere in the universe. Lets see where science takes us.
Just a few hundred years ago, all the civilised world thought it was Flat; yet Summerian clay tablets, thousands of years old depicted our solar system in perfect detail; including the outer planets which have only been discovered by “scientists” within the last hundred years. Please explain Phil?
The Mega-Lithic building techniques of several ancient civilizations are so incredible that many scientists & engineers have studied “How” they were built: including statues of 100% perfect left/right symmetry which could Only be achieved with CAD-CAM machining today except for two details: the statues are Thousands of years old & we Don’t have machines big enough to make statues that large today.
Megalithic Stones of up to 50,000 tonnes; have been: Quarried & Machined in perfect detail in 1 piece; Moved hundreds of kilometers; & Perfectly carved in intricit detail. Non ET believeing individuals would like to believe these megalithic stones were: Chiseled with a piece of copper hit with a mallet; yet copper is Half as hard as Granite? Or that these Pre-Wheel primitive peoples could have “Rolled these stones on logs” yet that would be Impossible; in fact we couldn’t move these stones today with Any type of Cranes, trucks or trains??? Puma Punku with its ancient city of Perfectly shaped interlocking blocks is above the treeline???
Then there are the holes through the meter thick stones; which have been studied to reveal that they were “Cut through with a Rotary Hole Saw at a faster rate than any machine we have today”. Yet the holes are thousands of years old??? Please explain.
Also the Sphinx has been independently dated at some 10-15,000years old not the 4.5-5,000, which is 5-10,000years before the Ancient Egyptians; so who built it? And how could those people (like so many other ancient civilisations) have such an incredible knowledge base from their inception & then just disappear?
Also the Disclosure project has some 2,000 testimonies of Military observations, Radar tracking, etc of UFO’s. Which is quite a body of evidence from Trained Observers & Technicians. There has been a hearing in the US on this evidence & there has been a call for the US to “Declassify All Top Secret Information on UFO.” To date the US government has refused to declassify any of its Top secret documents; “even those from 1947 on Roswell”? If its a myth, why isn’t it declassified?
Personally for me the watching of lights, crop circles & other phenomenon is irrelevant as the best evidence of ET intelligence was left here 10-15,000years ago.
Puma Punku (near La Paz), Egypt, Tiahuanaco, Sun & Moon Pyramids of Mexico, Mayan Pyramid cities of South America, the Olmecs, the summerians, the Sphinx…
Once you research these places thoroughly, learn the mathematical equations used & their relevance to the circumference of the world, the speed of light, the geometry of the solar system & our galaxy, the precision of the work, the incredible technical designs & engneering of what preceeded Primitive Man & the wheel… There are few conclusions you can come to. But if your a dyed in the wool skeptic, then keep your research limited & your head right where it is.
All these words and not a single source like
People like you really don’t get it, do you? You come to a conclusion and then all the evidence supports it.
Go watch the Ancient Aliens series on the History channel dude. This is practically common knowledge now.
Watch the Ancient Aliens debunked video on YouTube
Tipsy your comment applies to all who Haven’t put in any research; u asked for sources/references; “Obviously U haven’t put in the research.” Try this dipwad. Summerian: Texts, Astronomy, Clay Tablets… And DO some Research. Then try Mayan: Texts, Astronomy, etc Then Megalithic: sites, construction, techniques… and after a year or so u may begin to get the picture.
U didn’t read the whole comment did u fat tipsy: Disclosure project has some 2,000 testimonies of Military observations thats a reference. Puma Punku (near La Paz), Egypt, Tiahuanaco, Sun & Moon Pyramids of Mexico, Mayan Pyramid cities of South America, the Olmecs, the summerians, the Sphinx… they are references.
Exactly! i don’t get how people cant see this so clearly as it is.
Skeptics are usually are skimming over the data received through media, schooling and society. A huge coverup seems impossible and that is the best deception. A quick skeptic must be always thinking everything is as it seems to the generally educated person. They underestimate the nearly infinitely selfish natural behavior of human groups. A group can have power to do anything in time as there is no individual responsibility. So many things are being held back by families and tribes and councils and nations and corporations in this world. You would say, Naaa..” to most of them. That’s easy. You say, “Someone would talk.” And some do and they or their words are torn apart. IT IS AMAZING HOW THREATS AND ALL POWER CAN WORK ON YOU. Observe the small hidden testimonies of those that either aren’t afraid to leak a tiny thing as it will do little harm to the mis-infomation system, or they are about to die with no heirs. A honest person’s testimony sometimes is the only evidence you need unless you have that obsession: the “I must absolutely prove everything 99% true and my faith doesn’t exist. “Can’t get far without faith as you unbiasedly search around for facts to be assembled together for the answer. IT IS INCONVENIENT BUT CHANGES YOU. LISTEN AND LOOK don’t slide over the top of the ice. Take a chance and get into that cold and maybe painful complexity of life’s intellectual challenges in general. You will find all kinds of misinformation hysteria and hoaxes on every side of the story, but don’t let them influence your goal, cut through them and record them. Make no decisions for a long time. It feels good to be able to say… “I don’t yet know.” That is wisdom and most of reality. AND there are also VERY GOOD things happening under the cover of just ignorance or ones who don’t want you to know.
I perfectly agree. If you ask me UFOs are nothing more than a government strategy similar to terrorism to create the impression that aliens which might or might not be threatening to us exist. In my opinion a bunch of footage of basically lights and unclear objects which can be virtually anything along with testimony of high government officials does not prove anything at all. I will believe that aliens exist the moment I personally meet an alien. Up to date every single piece of evidence related to alien life could have easily been forged and fed to the public as mere propaganda. I don’t believe what the former minister of defense of Canada argues – that alien life does exist – or any other authority figure for the same reason I don’t believe that God hates gays just because the Pope used to say so. I’m my humble opinion people that believe testimonies of high ranking officials simply because of their high rank along with physical evidence of very dubious scientific standing are simply naive. I say evidence of very dubious scientific standing because every piece of evidence I have seen so have on this and other websites is treated as proof of alien life when in fact it could be anything else; A bunch of lights, like in this video, along with some green men with strange heads in older videos does not prove anything since these videos could have easily been forged with current technology. Assuming they have not been forged an unidentified aircraft or a bunch of strange lights does not necessarily and without a doubt – like this website presents it – imply existence of alien life. Like I said it can imply various other things such as secret military aircraft defined as UFO by the government to keep it secret. Overall I like many things that this website stands for, however belief in alien life and alien spaceships is simply that, a belief like any other, i.e. Christianity, Islam etc. Do not present it as a fact since it is not a fact it is a belief. A fact would be that laptops exist not aliens. Believing in God, aliens, chakuras etc. is fine, however non of them are facts
Are you a scientist? governments keeps untold amount of secrets from us under classified documents that if anyone would release they would be in the same position as snowden.. If aliens do exist they can easily bypass all of our telescopes and my have technological capabilities we cant even comprehend.
you say we have no proof but we do have proof that people deny, sumerian texts, mayan artwork, cave drawings, ect.. I would say you are not exploring from all angles and coming at this with a closed mind. Bosnian megaliths, the stones moved in egypt. All examples of evidence that alien life has been here yet you blatantly disregard them because they are not “fact” yet. You must not be a scientist because you do not think like one at all.
haha ok. all i hear are Sumerians this Sumerians that. Ancient Aliens this and that.The Sumerians Are people just like us. Ancient Aliens also don,t have prove. Scientist are open but not that open minded. We have two bodies. The flesh and the soul. If you guys want to research something, research what the Vedas wrote. Then you’ll get the picture. The western Science only predict the flesh, but not the soul. Their is more then the flesh. What i think is that all the thinks that are happening could be UFO’s. They are unidentified. It could be anything. Could be our self coming back from the future, or could be us from the past. As we all know humans through science exist only 200.000 years, what we could find that is. The ancient Vedas tells all about this and more. We still think that we ,from now, are the smart ones. The ones that figured it out. No, we are a type 0 civilization. It could be so that before 200.000 years we already existed but through nature(flesh) the earth destroyed us. Then we came back. It all circles again and again through our soul within the cosmos. The ancient Hindus know this knowledge. You people need to study the Vedas, they are the oldest “text” to date. All the lights that we are seeing are probably ‘US’. form another dimension. Far from what our eyes sees. The problem is that some of them are trying to make contact with us or looking at us by those lights and objects that we are experiencing. Some of us humans know this and are having contact with them or they through dreams and flesh.
I get Phil and what he’s trying to say. I also say there aren’t any prove, maybe cuz its more then flesh. Its more from another dimension. Or it could all be just Aliens, Not from around here..
I think it would a funny if we found out that alien races have been invading earth for years and leaving crop circles and taking land “samples” and giving light shows as like the equivalent to a sinior prank, like they graduate from the highest form of their education and the first thing they do is come to earth and fuck with the lower life forms. All the while we humans are like “oh gosh UFO, and what does this crop circle mean?”
I have proven Einsteins theory of relativity wrong and newtons law of gravity wrong. But being that I am not a successful prominent college graduate, no one will even listen to me. I can explain how these crafts are operating, and when it is exposed, the entire scientific community is going to do a face palm. Oh well, let the self centered self righteous scientists continue to be puzzled over an extremely simple explanation!
Can you explain to me how you think these crafts fly and move so fast. I’m just really fascinated and want to here your theory (:
Can u please explain. I would love to know.
Science is not a belief system, it is just a system. A system to predict, measure, confirm and predict again.
I guess the reason science and you don’t seem to get along would be evidence. Science is evidence based, your claims are lacking in such evidence and inaccurate.
Whilst I do not doubt your ability to prove Einsteinien relativity and Newtonian gravity wrong, I should remind you that science also sees they are both wrong and as such, they have been updated over time.
Nobody today uses Newtonian gravitational calculations in modern science any more than they use known, flawed Einsteinien theorem.
As for your not being a prominent successful college graduate, that point is moot.
Present your theory, present your evidence, present your calculations and their predictions.
ANYONE can then confirm / deny your findings and add to your research.
Once you have a handful of people convinced, get on Facebook, Youtube, Google+, MySpace, Reddit, anything and everything you can which is free.
If there is any basis to your claims, you will pretty soon have a paper to present.
Just saying.
That’s a really an amazing video. So, now, we start believing in Alliens? And what about the life on the Mars? Is it still possible?
Phil Dury, sorry but you’re kind rude. It’s why “internet skeptics” annoy me more than even people who believe dumb stuff. The video shows something really weird. Instead of discussing that video clip, you start mouthing off logical fallacies (like appeals to authority, who cares whether or not Dyson is into UFOs?). Try to explain what we’re looking at in that clip.
call Mulder and Scully…
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Questions are the most powerful tool we have on this planet today. If you are claiming to have all the answers, then you have stopped asking questions.
One possible explanation attributes the phenomenon to an incompletely understood combustion process in the air involving clouds of dust from the valley floor containing scandium.[3]
One recent hypothesis suggests that the lights are formed by a cluster of macroscopic Coulomb crystals in a plasma produced by the ionization of air and dust by alpha particles during radon decay in the dusty atmosphere. Several physical properties (oscillation, geometric structure, and light spectrum) observed in Hessdalen lights (HL) phenomenon can be explained through the dust plasma model.[4] Radon decay produces alpha particles (responsible by helium emissions in HL spectrum) and radioactive elements such as polonium. In 2004, Teodorani[5][6] showed an occurrence where a higher level of radioactivity on rocks was detected near the area where a large light ball was reported. In fact, when radon is released into air, its solid decay products readily attach to airborne dust.[7] A new computer simulation shows that dust immersed in ionized gas (i.e., dusty plasmas) can organize itself into double helixes. The simulations suggested that under conditions commonly found in space, the dust particles first form a cylindrical structure that sometimes evolved into helical structures. Along some spirals, the radius of the helix was seen to change abruptly from one value to another and then back again, providing a mechanism for storing information in terms of the length and radius of a section of a spiral. Hessdalen lights may take the helical structure. Surprisingly, dusty plasmas may also assume this structure.[8]
Another hypothesis explains HL as a product of piezoelectricity generated under specific rock strains (Takaki and Ikeya, 1998)[9] because many crystal rocks include quartz grains which produce an intense charge density. In a 2011 paper,[10] based in the dusty plasma theory of HL, it is suggested that piezoelectricity of quartz cannot explain a peculiar property assumed by the HL phenomenon – the presence of geometrical structures in its center. Paiva and Taft have shown a mechanism of light ball cluster formation in Hessdalen lights by the nonlinear interaction of ion-acoustic and dusty-acoustic waves with low frequency geoelectromagnetic waves in dusty plasmas. The theoretical model shows that the velocity of ejected light balls by HL cluster is of about 10,000 m s−1 in a good agreement with the observed velocity of some ejected light balls, which is estimated as 20,000 m s−1.[11] Why the ejected ball is always green-colored? Ejection of small green light ball from HL is due to radiation pressure produced by the interaction between very low frequency electromagnetic waves (VLF) and atmospheric ions (present in the central white-colored ball) through ion-acoustic waves (IAW).[12] Probably only O2+ ions (electronic transition (b4Σg- → a4Πu)), with green emission lines, is transported by IAW. Electronic bands of O2+ ion occur in auroral spectra.[13] Electron-molecular-ion dissociative recombination coefficient rate α as functions of electron temperature Te and cross sections σ as a function of electron energy E have been have measured by Mehr and Biondi [14] for N2+ and O2+ over the electron temperature interval 0.007–10 eV. The estimated temperature of HL is of about 5,000 K.[15] In this temperature, the rate coefficient of dissociative recombination will be respectively α(Te)O2+ ~ 10-8 cm3 s-1, and α(Te)N2+ ~ 10-7 cm3 s-1. Thus, the nitrogen ions will be decomposed in N2+ + e- → N + N* more rapidly than oxygen ions in the HL plasma. Only ionic-species are transported by IAW. Therefore, only oxygen ions will be predominant ejected green light balls from a central white ball in HL, presenting negative band of O2+ with electronic transition b4Σg- → a4Πu after an IAW formation. Paiva and Taft [16] presented a model for resolving the apparently contradictory spectrum observed in Hessdalen lights (HL) phenomenon. Thus, its nearly flat spectrum on the top with steep sides is due to the effect of optical thickness on the bremsstrahlung spectrum. At low frequencies self-absorption modifies the spectrum to follow the Rayleigh–Jeans part of the blackbody curve. This spectrum is typical of dense ionized gas. Additionally, spectrum produced in the thermal bremsstrahlung process is flat up to a cutoff frequency, ν cut, and falls off exponentially at higher frequencies. This sequence of events forms the typical spectrum of HL phenomenon when the atmosphere is clear, with no fog. According to the model, spatial color distribution of luminous balls commonly observed in HL phenomenon are produced by electrons accelerated by electric fields during rapid fracture of piezoelectric rocks under the ground.[17]
Some individuals claim that the lights are created by extraterrestrial spacecraft. This position is outside the scientific mainstream.
Note that some sightings have been identified as misperceptions of astronomical bodies, aircraft, car headlights, and mirages.[18]
Hmmmmm… NO.
That’s what I thought!
Spirits..or demons..if you will…are what’s putting on these light shows. Its well known to some, obviously not others. They’ve been talked about for years. “Like a diamond in the sky”….”shine bright like a diamond”…”Lucy (Lucifer) in the sky with diamonds”……its all part of bigger plan. Deception is their greatest tool..or weapon, I say.
Haha funny.
Or Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds = LSD, which makes you trip your balls off and see al kinds of lights in the sky 😉
If the universe is so gigantically massive , vast and unknown who are we to claim we are the only form of life in the entire universe thats so vast thats been around for allegedly billions of years . allegedly the “big bang that created this universe” could have been the first ever big bang or the 10th trillionth in the history of Space/ Time / Existence?
It’s called military aircraft doing maneuvers just to screw with your head-there are no aliens
So your telling me that in this whole thing we call a universe that we are the only intelligent life out there please prove me wrong
And while your at it Chris can you prove that Black is White?
It continues to shock me that people can be so naive as to believe that we are alone in this infinite universe! You can’t be serious. Time for you to open your eyes and WAKE UP!
what I don’t get is the fact you see all of these students with their equipment and such, camera’s and videocamera’s, all mounted on tripods, yet the video itself is very shaky and blurry. As a professional videographer, this seems really strange to do “research” like this. They could have covered almost every angle with the equipment available, yet they have 1 shaky/grainy and blurry film. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Till you find out some way to record videos from great distances and find a way to disable gravitational field thats making it blurry and making it fly, I would rethink what you wrote. Imagine wind, even tiny one, making it shaky. Imagine the ship shape is blurred by the gravitational effect coming from the ship itself. Hope we are done it this matter.
Thank you Michelle
Completely incongruous, MrvanH…. i agree, it doesn’t make sense.
Exactly What I thought immediately after seeing this.
Well maybe electronic interference messed with the other cameras, and i think if youre seeing this in person you might be a little shakey from all the adrenaline. Like others said they’re calling these ufos without knowing the intention or capabilities of the beings inside. I would be scared too.
Those tripods were fro camera to take pictures. if it was indeed on a tripod, they wouldn’t get good enough angle. they have to be prepared for such a thing. so handheld was probably there best option. as for the long exposure, there as only 1 photograph recorded. well, of what is assumed. but to declare if it was fake. how would they benefit from that? recalling people from a university to go out and do such a thing to make a fake video that is an hour long? that seems more unlikely then the assumption of it being fake of camera accountability
yes…we are all that gullible right….lol…well sir, not all of us…lmao
I haven’t told many of this yet but the 2nd of August this year I was out watching the sky in the late evening when I saw one of those UFO’s right above me. At close distance it fired up. As a clock, lights began to form a circle and it took less than a second until it started rotating. A little shaky first and at the same time moving right on the sky, emitting stronger. The acceleration was quick and the UFO might have traveled one kilometer when it changed direction or was hidden by clouds and disappeared of my vision, NO sounds what so ever! The whole “Phenomenae” lasted for about three Seconds, Sighted in Sweden.
Hessdalen is very real and not fake.
http://www.hessdalen.org/index_e.shtml
Scientists are calling the UFO with various signals not knowing what they are capable to do, why?
kind of like phenomenology. we cant assume what people are thinking and why they do things. yet we still do based on judgments on experience and agency. meaning they would look at why they would do things, have they done this before. have we done this before. then we would look at agency and see why they would even do it. we dont exactly know what they are capable of. but we can assume of right now that they are not exactly a threat. since you know…..they haven’t killed anyone yet. and that all they do is fly around. im assuming thats what you are asking. besides that, i dont understand your question
pretty neat
Another X-File..
Hillary is the grandmother this country needs!
I thought eaxctly the same thing about the footage. These are science students waiting for this exact thing to happen but only one video was produced from all of those people and devices. And when it starts happening they all start gasping and reacting very dramatically. Almost too dramatically. Not very scientific behavior and terrible, incoclusive, results. It could be true. If it is lets get more qualified and professional scientists to record the phenomenon so it can be porperly studied.
Good on ya mate, keep moving those goal posts… Ohh those particular scientists were bad ones? We need new ones, because the original scientists got too excited when they found something…
PLEASE explain what ‘scientific behaviour’ is?
I’d like to see you react to spaceships flying over your head, you know some people actually wanted to meet with extraterrestrials, but when they came flying down everyone ran off.
Fact is, we are not ready for contact yet, and they know it.
they may know it, but not at that particular moment. you know when people say they are left or right brained? even though thats impossible. they prioritize actions on parts of the brain that are located on either side. thus giving out a reaction. this is kind of the same thing. sure given a discussion like we are right now, they would say they would not be ready. but at that particular time, they didnt care, didnt notice. they were just amused about finding the object causing the disturbance. if we all thought about one thing in every single situation. we wouldnt be hypocrites. but humans, scientist, everybody doesnt do that. no one on earth does that. its the reason why people feel happy, sad, anger, and other emotions in different situations, then we adapt on them. so your argument is actually invalid. and the UFO never actually came down, nor did they think that it actually would. out of all UFO sightings. how many were abductions? the ratio is astonishing when you are assuming they are equal
he expects people to react, “oh, its that again… back to facebook…”
other than that, yes, he had good points, could be a hoax, but who at this point cares
gotta see it to believe it ya know.
Seriously, these people are scientists? I can replicate the same experience with a LED Lighted Remote Control Aircraft that’s commonly sold on the internet.
Yes because no professional would gasp, act dramatically or irrationally at the possible discovery of intellegent life from another planet…
Never heard of the Aurora!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnlaNR0iTek
Similar ligths appear in lake manasarovar almost everyday early in the morning (around 2:30 AM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CElIA8jHWyM
I have pictures of large disk i watched it fly very very fast I was shocked that I got a photo I did send it to NASA
I still have the Photo.
—-so nice of them to show up for the photo-op…..
Good information really nice nights I like much .. but better itself is in Spanish … to share thanks