“We or at least some of us interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions after. It is ironic that the US should be fighting monstrously expensive wars, allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on black projects which both congress and the commander in chief have been kept deliberately in the dark” – Paul Hellyer, Former Canadian Defence Minister, Responsible for the unification of the Canadian Army, Navy and Air Force into the Canadian Forces.
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allegedly no illegibly…geez
I think he says allegedly…
If he’s Canadian, how does he know what the U.S. has done regarding UFOs? Especially if Congress and the President were left out of the loop???
True, however I think what might be considered a mutual defense issue that information would be shared and compared.
He watched the movie Independence Day 🙂
May be but how does he know if our presidents haven’t? I mean come on. He knows our “Black Operations ” that Congress And Our president have-not clue about. I gotta ask, How did He get this info? A UFO perhaps?
civilians know from freedom of info act, whistle blowers and leaked documents. those are some, there are others that mediumly intelligent ppl cant think of . so ppfft
I read a wikipedia article about him and It reads most of the information he details about American knowledge of UFO’s comes from conversations he’s had with a retired US Air Force general who confirmed info in a book Hellyer had read from an Army Colonel, the book being The Day After Roswell. I’m not saying the info he gives is accurate but Black Ops are still Ops and they are typically run by Generals and Colonels and it may help explain how a Canadian got “inside information”..
How long do uncontacted tribe’s stay viable after the outside World make themselves known to the tribe in question?
Open your minds up.. it’s demon work.. these ‘gods’ are so technilogically advanced that people cannot see the truth behind their sinister works of the devil!!
And this is why we will fall back into the dark ages. Thinking like this.
Tundradrone, it is not hard to look around and see the work of Satan, or whatever politically correct name you choose… If you think demons are not real, and doing their masters work, do a cursory study of demon possession., what the “new age” is about, and to and on a positive note, do a study of children near death experiences.
Then come talk about falling back into the dark ages.
How strange that someone would use the terms “new age” and “demon possession” in the same sentence. Clearly this person doesn’t know what the new age is about; clearly they are also enmeshed in the old Fundamentalist Christian ways of thinking that refer to just about anything that they don’t agree with as “the work of the devil”.
Satan is not one single figure in the Bible. You see Satan being referenced in many passages but he is not one person, he is many. Satan is the group behind all the evil, and corruption. The Bible predicted all these events before, and they were simply interpreting things they saw in any manner they could. So adding the name “Satan” or “Satan’s work” to anything would point out that it is evil. Lucifer is often misinterpreted as Satan as well. But Lucifer is just a fallen angel who gave birth to these evils. How ever in my belief there are multi-dimensional beings who are also misinterpreted as being evil. The Angels themselves in a manner of speaking are multi-dimensional beings. Yet they are not evil. Not everything that appears is the work of Satan, or his followers.
You religious people are so full of shit, there is no satan, evil is what YOU make it. Open your eyes, use common sense.
I hope the aliens come soon enough to save us from these religious freaks. They are the ones to be scared about.
U want to believe cavemen screwed monkeys to kmake u so be it I prefer to believe I was created not some snakehead fish that turned into monkeys which cavemen found in trees forced them down and mated with the apes and created u maybe u look different in the mirror than I door
Hope u remember that comment on your death bed u need to watch movie true story of boy who went to heaven met Jesus, and just 3 weeks ago a girl 12 who was terminal and playing in yard with sister climbing trees she liked to do fell 30 feet into hollow tree landed on head went to heaven met Jesus met her grandmother and wanted to stay Jesus told her to go back tell what she SSW she woke up in hospital completely cured from terminal brain disease cured doctors are completely 1 doc was atheist changed into very religious person no possible way she got cured any other way she also writing book u might want to enlighten yourinteligence read book on boy and girl just cause Jesus doesn’t appear on times square t v screen he performs miracles daily pay attention and u would see better now than later he gave u a brain with somewhat of an I.q. use it!!!
thats probably the dumbest most ignorant retarted comment I have ever seen regarding these matters…shiloh your problem is your being told what sin and the devil is through a religion…why not go find out for youself…go do YOUR OWN HOMEWORK
Thats called a resonant frequency
It is all true and we just can’t see it because we have been kept in the dark! We do have a government over the government and Satan is the commander believer it or not everyone! Face it this is the way it is!
Carl Sagan is right, when we decay into fantastical ideas, not based on real science, ie. the scientific process. Then we will fall into another dark ages. There is no scientific basis for god or satan. Get real….stop this foolishness.
how do the people begin to deal with this?
I live on the Canadian American border where there is a heavy military presence. We ALWAYS see the US and Canadian Air Force training together in the skies. The two militaries work together more than you think.
Absoutley right that is why would defensevene minister is right and knows aliens don’t want us on moon the helium 3 on the moon is pure and 1 boxcar would power all north america for 100 years and they want it they were there first and ain’t sharing look up helium 3 not just one article read lots by will know why we aren’t going to be allowed a base on the moon but oppollo austronaunts are heard saying their is a Santa that was code for aliens look it up they told us not to come back that is why we spent billions more to build space station in middle of space instead of moon when any one with a pea brain knows it would cost hundreds times more money than to b7ild on moon and be safer but that is not going to happen that is why we shifted our attention to mars yes look real hard at what helium 3 would do for humanity and we ain’t even thinking about going to go get.
People on theses threads need to stop the arguing. So many of us say that we want to spread peace and truth, love and light, and yet we are so eager to call each other foolish and respond hurtfully with statements like obviously so and so doesn’t know…” and “anyone who believes … needs to get a taste of reality.”
The reality of the life and knowledge you claim to have is that you should speak the truth in love and gentility. WE MUST STOP FINDING FAULT WITH EACH OTHER AND LISTEN…Listen to what is being said and decide for ourselves once we’ve heard all sides.
The idea that there is no proof of God or Satan may be true from your perspective, but for me and many others God and Satan are real enough. I know from experience (personal and within my family). But I’m not here to debate that. What I’m here to say is that perhaps looking at the teachings of New Age and consciousness as entirely Separate from the Christian faith is causing a division where one does not exist.
It is true that the institution of religion was instated as a mechanism of control. Because of this we did not get the whole truth. However, in rejecting it entirely, we cut ourselves off from any truth that may exist. The truth of the matter is that whether you are Christian or New Age or Atheist or Any other title, Jesus teaches in the New Testament, a message of love and forgiveness and unity.
He says he is the son of God, it is a personal choice of yours to either believe or not believe. But it does not give you a reason to call a believer a fool. Unless you are an atheist, there is some higher consciousness, a spirit that is the source of all things. Who is to say that that spirits first act was not to create himself in image as Jesus, the second member of the God head. In that sense, God the Father= the Mind of God, God the Son (Jesus)= the Body of God, and the Holy Spirit= the Spirit of God. God would exist mind body and spirit as we do.
If we consider that their are angels and demons and other spiritual beings throughout the universe and beyond, then perhaps the Devil is the enemy and he is working to destroy humanity. Perhaps the biblical account is true, but incomplete.
The quest for truth and greater knowledge is not exclusionary, but receptive. and the path to a better world is not through insults and spite, but unity, love and kindness. If you take anything away from what I say, let it be that. We need to be supportive of each other in evolution and understanding. The moment we think we know more than others, that is the moment we stop learning. It is the one who begins by knowing the least, who will ultimately learn the most.
Much love, God bless you all, spread kindness.
Well said Andrae Smith! I am not what you’d call religious although I was brought up Catholic. I decided long ago that there were certain elements that didn’t quite fit, for me. On the other hand there are parts that do resonate for me such as: Treat others as you expect to be treated. I’ve tried to live my life by these simple words but that doesn’t mean I have to be or call myself religious or go round telling other people that they’re wrong and I’m right. I personally have found that most religions have beautiful sentiments hidden within their texts and I also believe that a lot of information is either missing or has been intentionally suppressed so, nobody can really say who’s right and who’s wrong. After all most religions pretty much preach love, peace and compassion as the basis for their beliefs so why don’t we concentrate and what they do have in common rather than what they don’t?
Peace, love and respect
Well what happens when you leave the church? or leave the religion? how do the people still within it view you now? How can we gain love and peace through religion, when most of all the WARS fought through history and up to now have been fought within the context of religion(middle east PRAISE ALLAH!! the crusades!!! war and bloodshed. makes sense?……look man..the very same people who gave you religion gave you your system of government, your council on foreign relations, your united nations(which primary owners are the Bilderbergs and Rockefellers to name a few), your healthcare system, your crap ass corrupted educational system, but the UN as well as religion and the CFR should be spreading love and peace but seem to be at the for front of all violence and conflict…
Which leads me into my next concern…..how can you EVEN consider angels or demons out in the universe if you have never been out there to experience it for yourself? but you have been told what is out there and how to believe it by a religion, institution, or your parents here on earth? WE STILL DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE as NONE OF US HAVE VENTURED OUT THERE TO FIND OUT FOR OURSELVES!!!! but only by what we are told! i am no atheist, I have no religious affiliations…rather I am along side of all of belief…as I am purely me and my consciousness with the world…as that is my belief so I am the same as you because all this i say here is based off a belief system of my own, so I am no different than any other human being…but i do consider the planet and us humans are all connected as one big consciousness…and for some reason we cannot seem to understand that since we have all these different religions saying their GOD or the way they see the world is better if not the only way it should be viewed….Mr. smith i am not here to detest your belief system or tell you what to believe in rather I am here to hopefully raise some some questions in your mind and maybe consider you to do more Homework because by the looks of it you have not done enough
Tauren I Love u with all my heart and soul and every one and thing. Unspeek for me Love and Light One love one race one life One. 🙂 Ho Opohono. Namaste! ❤
All I can say to that is that may views have been shaped by the Christian experience. And there is nothing wrong with that. The religions are fundamentally flawed and numerous wars were fought over interpretations of the teachings. Do not tell me what research I haven’t done. You cannot know what I know the way I know it until you’ve been in my head. I’ve known everything that you’ve said so far, but I walk by faith in a God I have a personal experience with. I was introduced through Christianity, but I am taking my own initiative to have my own experience and my own interpretations of the teachings of various religions. I can only understand things through my own perceptions as I learn them, so again, do not find fault with me for your dissatisfaction. I shared my ideas on the subject, but my message was and always be to be nice and do not judge.
Andrea how is your reply different from anyone else’s? You are doing the same thing you tell others not to do.
Take it as you will, Tom. I’m not here to judge or be judged. My point is that we need to be kind, supportive and non-judgmental. Calling each other out of character, and making assumptions about each other only spreads anger and negativity. I’m not trying to upset you or anyone, but I’m not here to be a people-pleaser.
maybe redefine the concept of ‘God’..we consider anything not of this Earth to be..’alien’..yes?..or extra-terrestrial..so along these lines ‘God’ is alien to our planet..after all according to the Bible He made this planet the skies,the earth..everything right?..however it is clear He is not from here.correct?..as there was no..’here’..so it can be said He is an alien..or at least alien to us..now ‘God’,by loose definition, would be someone of enlightened or superior knowledge to us mere humans…yes?..so is it so hard to believe that an ‘entity’ of superior intellect to ours, that we may have mistakenly decided to revere, is an alien..after all it would take some kind of superior intellect to be able to..firstly..transverse the cosmos to get here..after all ‘God’ has to come from..somewhere?..then secondly when he got here He had to be able to..’create’..(terraform)..this newly made planet..sounds like an awful lot of science to do that..now that being said would not this foreign entity seem God -like to our ancestors..so is God really an omnipotent being of unknown origin and power..or an alien being of unknown origin and as yet unknown/advanced technology..one not restricted to solid form alone..I could go deeper but I think my point is represented in part enough to get the point across..think outside the box people..
There is a difference between the President “saying” he didn’t know and actually not knowing… Remember Bill Clinton’s interpretation of what is cheating on your wife… Oh and for those who didn’t know, the Canadian NORAD Region is directly linked to NORAD in terms of who knows what…. UFOs…. Yes they are a part of life on earth …
Science Spirutality and all religions evolution are all one in the same and the same Macro Micro As above so Below One ness unity the key is Unity Calm and Unity One Love One Life One Mind One Heat Love and Light Namaste
In the entire interview in Hawaii (45 minutes or so) that I found elsewhere, he talks about multiple UFO crashes since the 29th century.
My concern is this: if these beings are so technologically advanced that they can travel such distances in space, how come they crash on the planet so often? They don’t know how to land?
Perhaps our material plane is much denser than the reality they are normally used to. Or maybe our atmosphere gives them problems? My only other explanation is that we’ve been shooting them down 😛
they shoot them down